Interesting idea in general, in the case of neck/shoulder tension (head down, shoulders up - a submissive gesture) another or simpler or additional function might be protection of the jugular.
Oh that could make a lot of sense. But idk why any guy would feel the need to defend himself from women when ~all women have so little upper body strength (the average man has stronger arms than 99% of women iirc?)
Feelings/Emotions evolved as mostly decontextualized heuristics to provide adaptive and fast reactions on average considering cost and pay off, in doubt, protect your jugalar, in doubt, scratch the itch that could be a mosquito giving you malaria etc. Women mostly used to have the power to inflict violence through men or by socially threatening others, women are dangerous in their own way. Of course when we think carefully about it, a lone woman that stands before a guy in a mostly anonymous mass society is very much not dangerous, try to explain that to lower level brain parts that don't even understand words, the brain parts that evolved earlier are very much pavlovian dogs, which leads to worse outcomes the more dynamic our environment becomes and the more agency in theory we could have if we weren't blockaded by these somewhat anachronistic adaptation systems.
Well, you need to be a bit more specific, unspicifically, reading and introspection, imagining, simplest fit etc., the usual boring stuff. I think the evolutionary (psychology) claims are mostly standard I haven't read too much from you yet, but chances are you are familiar with LessWrong, what I wrote would be an uncontentious claim there if that's an authority that matters to you and I can think of multiple articles that could elaborate on some of the points.
Somewhat anachronistic, not anachronistic in the sense that we can just decide to stop to use them, anachronistic in the sense that we can now concretely imagine a being, AGI, that can and should do without it, that can totally rewrite certain parts of itself and isn't tied to suboptimal baggage like us. Realizing that some mental script isn't helping does little to change it by itself, it requires a lot of effort to rewire ourselves, it requires a lot of environmental interaction and it has inherently great limitations. No such limitations exist for Ai in principle, unless you Ai safety researchers make it so ;).
I think jamming is a decent enough analogy. If you are about to be punched — you constrict the muscle and fascia to resist the impact, but you can also use the same constriction to prevent an instinct to attack someone more powerful than you
Yeah there's also a thing I'll write about eventually where I think if
If you're not feeling a part of your body in high resolution, in order to protect it from sudden external forces, the only way to do that is to tense it.
Interesting idea in general, in the case of neck/shoulder tension (head down, shoulders up - a submissive gesture) another or simpler or additional function might be protection of the jugular.
Oh that could make a lot of sense. But idk why any guy would feel the need to defend himself from women when ~all women have so little upper body strength (the average man has stronger arms than 99% of women iirc?)
Feelings/Emotions evolved as mostly decontextualized heuristics to provide adaptive and fast reactions on average considering cost and pay off, in doubt, protect your jugalar, in doubt, scratch the itch that could be a mosquito giving you malaria etc. Women mostly used to have the power to inflict violence through men or by socially threatening others, women are dangerous in their own way. Of course when we think carefully about it, a lone woman that stands before a guy in a mostly anonymous mass society is very much not dangerous, try to explain that to lower level brain parts that don't even understand words, the brain parts that evolved earlier are very much pavlovian dogs, which leads to worse outcomes the more dynamic our environment becomes and the more agency in theory we could have if we weren't blockaded by these somewhat anachronistic adaptation systems.
How do you know all of this? How do you know they’re anachronistic?
Well, you need to be a bit more specific, unspicifically, reading and introspection, imagining, simplest fit etc., the usual boring stuff. I think the evolutionary (psychology) claims are mostly standard I haven't read too much from you yet, but chances are you are familiar with LessWrong, what I wrote would be an uncontentious claim there if that's an authority that matters to you and I can think of multiple articles that could elaborate on some of the points.
Somewhat anachronistic, not anachronistic in the sense that we can just decide to stop to use them, anachronistic in the sense that we can now concretely imagine a being, AGI, that can and should do without it, that can totally rewrite certain parts of itself and isn't tied to suboptimal baggage like us. Realizing that some mental script isn't helping does little to change it by itself, it requires a lot of effort to rewire ourselves, it requires a lot of environmental interaction and it has inherently great limitations. No such limitations exist for Ai in principle, unless you Ai safety researchers make it so ;).
There's definitely a deep relationship between conflicting feelings and muscle tension.
A lot of parallel threads in existing somatic theories:
- Wilhelm Reich talked about 'armoring' — chronic muscle tension that blocks the expression of emotions (he suggested releasing this through orgasm)
- There's an old Doug Tataryn paper about repression as a muscles 'storing' repressed feelings https://www.bioemotiveframework.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/BEF_dougs_1983_paper_on_emotions_muscles_and_the_cortex_-_ocr.pdf (beware hilarious OCR)
I think jamming is a decent enough analogy. If you are about to be punched — you constrict the muscle and fascia to resist the impact, but you can also use the same constriction to prevent an instinct to attack someone more powerful than you
Yeah there's also a thing I'll write about eventually where I think if
If you're not feeling a part of your body in high resolution, in order to protect it from sudden external forces, the only way to do that is to tense it.