Has someone you know ever had a “breakthrough” from coaching, meditation, or psychedelics — only to later have it fade?
For example, many people experience ego deaths that can last days or sometimes months. But as it turns out, having a sense of self can serve important functions (try navigating a world that expects you to have opinions, goals, and boundaries when you genuinely feel you have none) and finding a better cognitive strategy without downsides is non-trivial. Because the “breakthrough” wasn’t integrated with the conflicts of everyday life, it fades. I call these instances “flaky breakthroughs.”
It’s well-known that flaky breakthroughs are common with psychedelics and meditation, but apparently it’s not well-known that flaky breakthroughs are pervasive in coaching and retreats.
For example, it is common for someone to do some coaching, feel a “breakthrough”, think, “Wow, everything is going to be different from now on,” but feel and act no differently weeks or months later.
Worse, some techniques can even cause bypassing. Such “false breakthroughs” can come with intense positive affect or “cathartic” crying without addressing the underlying issue. (More below.)
Flaky breakthroughs can set people back for years or decades: If someone has a “breakthrough” that unexpectedly reverts, they can become jaded on progress itself. They can learn helplessness and give up on growing. The most depressed person you know has likely had this happen multiple times.
Flaky breakthroughs pervade inner work. Despite this, almost no one — coaches, therapists, retreats, bodyworkers, etc. — tracks whether their breakthroughs last.
Almost no practitioners track whether breakthroughs last.
Earlier this year, I attempted to make a list of “10x Coaches” to refer people to. 20–30 coaches reached out as interested in working with me, and I asked each to share the best evidence that they had facilitated lasting growth for others.
But all anyone could show me were testimonials that basically read, “The session I just had was *really* nice. They had such a kind presence! I felt a big release at the end.” — And I’m glad to hear they’re nice, but immediate reviews do not distinguish lasting growth from flaky breakthroughs.
To show you just how bad it can be, one coach asked me how it was even possible to know if the client resolved their issue long-term:
As someone from a physics background where we measure whether interventions work, I was surprised by the lack of rigor.
Even among well-respected practitioners, checking for flaky breakthroughs isn’t standard practice. For example, Joe Hudson (Art of Accomplishment) posted a coaching video where he stated they’d discovered “how procrastination can completely dissolve.” When I asked if he’d followed up to verify this, he explained he doesn't track results.
Almost every practitioner I’ve seen doesn't track whether breakthroughs last.
How do they know whether they’re facilitating lasting growth or flaky breakthroughs?
Can we fix this, guys?
What happens during flaky breakthroughs?
Here's my main model:
Let's say someone is struggling with procrastination. A practitioner helps them release a few blocks, and the client feels amazing — lots of insight, big emotional release, etc. But feeling good in the moment doesn't mean they'll actually stop procrastinating. They could have 100 more blocks creating their procrastination. You just don't know.
So when the client hits those remaining blocks in real life, they're blindsided. The “breakthrough” doesn't stick. And because they expected to be “fixed”, they become jaded on growth itself. They start believing their problems are unsolvable and give up entirely.
When a practitioner neglects to remind them, “by the way, more blocks are probably going to come up, this is probably just one of many,” they're failing to set proper expectations. If the client walks away with false confidence, this could be net negative for their long-term growth.
Some practitioners even make this worse by asserting “That’s it.” after the client has felt a single “breakthrough.” For example, imagine how this man will feel if he encounters a totally different procrastination block the next time he sits down to work.
In cases like these, the “breakthrough” was not complete. Maybe it was only 1%. You can’t know until you check later.
Without long-term feedback, practitioners can mistakenly think they're helping — “wow look they just had a breakthrough!” — but just be short-term reward hacking.
This can be especially harmful when techniques bypass the underlying issues rather than address them. For instance, it is possible for a practitioner or retreat to temporarily zap someone (someone who is cognitively insecure) into feeling like their problem never mattered in the first place. The simplest, most common way this happens is via cliche inspirational statements: “You are already perfect,” “Just let go of all resistance,” “Return to the present,” “Just love yourself more.” Statements like these can help in very specific circumstances with long-term integration, but usually they lose their effect (though they may make newcomers cry a few times).
It’s similar to how someone can take psychedelics and temporarily relax one of the tense beliefs they use to interact with the world. But just because someone gets zapped into ~no ego for a short period of time doesn’t mean they can safely replace the use for an ego in all contexts permanently. (Not to say it’s impossible, but it requires integration.) As psychedelic researchers have found, a ”feeling of profound understanding” doesn't guarantee accuracy — insights can feel undeniably true while being completely false.
In general, bypassing seems most prevalent when practitioners come from a frame that assumes a client’s symptoms are simply suboptimal. Never mind that suffering often has a complex and locally optimal purpose. Never mind that social anxiety is usually protecting from outcomes perceived to be worse. The most problematic approaches suggest you tear down Chesterton's Fence while calling it “healing.”
Reduce flaky breakthroughs with accountability
I don't blame practitioners — I blame the system they’re in. Their incentive structure rewards short-term feel-good moments more than lasting change.
If you’re a practitioner interested in reducing flaky breakthroughs, here are my suggestions:
A) Track long-term outcomes
If you're not tracking whether your work lasts 3+ months, you don't actually know if you're helping people.
Almost no one tracks long-term outcomes, which also means it’s very easy to stand out.
Track:
If their issue is still resolved
Specific stories of how their life is concretely different now
Any unwanted side effects, or new issues that emerged
Similarly, wait at least 3 months before collecting testimonials, and share when the testimonial was written. Not only does this show you care about long-term outcomes, but it makes for significantly more convincing testimonials. For example:
“We spoke for 5 hours and 1 year later his lifelong social anxiety is still chill. He can release triggers without external help.”
Another example from a trusted friend:
In the future, I plan to ask new clients if I can interview their partners, friends, or family. Clients may not have the whole picture, so it could be useful to hear from others in their life.
B) Align financial incentives with long-term satisfaction
Consider making payment partially conditional on long-term satisfaction. I do this largely because I want to know if my clients are actually achieving their goals, rather than just writing nice testimonials. (You could also experiment with some kind of refund model, but I haven’t tried that exact model myself.)
C) Stress-test “breakthroughs”
Near the end of work together, you can “red team” their progress. For example, in my sessions I often ask: “What would be the maximally challenging version of that situation?” Then we work through it until even the worst-case scenario feels manageable.
Practitioners can also use their experience to anticipate common blocks. For example, I've noticed small people often can’t imagine ever physically defending themselves, and they often don’t notice this block until I point it out explicitly.
I like stress-testing because it reduces the number of follow-up sessions clients need. (This is another reason not to charge by the hour — you’re financially incentivized to facilitate slower growth.)
Flaky breakthroughs don’t mean rapid growth is impossible
Some people will read the post above and conclude that growth must always be a slow process, and that all claims of rapid resolution of lifelong issues are deceit. I think this is wrong. Much of my work has been about how to help people grow from as few hours of instruction as possible with long-term verification.
Conclusion
Flaky breakthroughs are common. Long-term feedback loops matter! I’m looking forward to how good practitioners will get once they start tracking long-term outcomes.
Thanks to Brian Toomey for suggesting I write this.
I feel called to reach out and say that this post resonates deeply with me. There have been so many therapy and mindfulness modalities I have been loathe to give myself to specifically because I don't see evidence of long term efficacy. Same with physical therapy, supplements and medicines (to my eventual detriment in some cases!). Generally, I'm of the sort where I'd rather not work up the hope and put out the money for interventions with no demonstrated ability to work. In this vein, I've started through "After the Ecstasy the Laundry" to try to answer the question - does enlightenment have positive long term consequences? I feel like if you haven't checked out that book yet, you may find it relevant to your quest. As somebody who's flirting with spending 3 months later this year on the yogic path, knowing that people who have committed to it for far longer actually experienced long term good is *incredibly* important to informing my choice.
Also, the way Joe Hudson handled that thread is pretty sus! You gave him a lot of grace by not taking an angrier tone with your summary.
Much love